[Compcomm] The Next Step

[Mike Dransfield]

Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:31, Mike Dransfield wrote:
>   
>> Jeffrey Laramie wrote:
>>     
>>> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 18:35, RYX wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Am Dienstag, den 17.04.2007, 16:35 -0400 schrieb Will Farrington:
>>>>         
>>>>> The entire thing will utilize the Compiz core and will need that core
>>>>> to be of any worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one will be Emerald unless they're using Compiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> etc, etc
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a plethora of reasons why naming the forums the Compiz Forums
>>>>> IS THE RIGHT IDEA. Listing them all would be a waste of time.
>>>>>           
>>>> I don't want to join the name discussion again, but I really support the
>>>> idea of keeping the name "compiz community" (or "coco" as short form and
>>>> prefix for the packages) - if you think of it, the old name of the
>>>> compiz-forums (before beryl) was not compiz-quinnstorm.org ... it was
>>>> compiz.org. Nobody had a problem with it back then, so why bother today?
>>>>         
>>> I know this isn't the way you wanted it, but the decision was made weeks
>>> ago that we would use a new neutral community/domain name. Having the
>>> same discussions again and again isn't helping us move forward.
>>>       
>> Since its just a change of domain name, can we discuss who will
>> own this domain?
>>
>> I am not happy about anyone except David being in control of the
>> 'official' domain for obvious reasons.
>>     
>
> This is a good question. I personally don't have a problem with David owning 
> the name, or anyone else that is an active leader for that matter. Other 
> communities have created a legal structure that owns the community assets, 
> such as the Apache Software Foundation. That might be the better answer in 
> the long term.
>   

I do not think we could get such a legal agreement within a
certain timeframe.  To me the safest way to avoid undesired
consequences is to keep the existing domain name and
ownership.

Also whilst we are on the subject, do I ever get an answer
about who actually owns berylbox?  Is it quinn?


>> It still really does not explain why we have to change domains,
>> forum name and possibly logo for.  It seems like a lot of extra effort
>> and expense for not a lot of gain.
>>     
>
> The gain is a larger community of active developers who feel that their 
> contributions are appreciated.
>   

They know full well their contributions are appreciated,
we dont need to change a domain for that.

 From what I hear on this list, the developers are the ones who
care least for a name change, it seems like non-developers
and cheerleaders who want to change the name most.

Also you say they are active developers, do we get some sort of
commitment to number of hours for the change of name?

I mean we would look totally stupid if we changed the name
and then they all said 'we are all demotivated now and we don't
really know what to code, sorry'.  What exciting stuff is on the
line if only we just change the name of the forum?

Do we get a wishlist completed or something?

> Jeff
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