[Compcomm] Name poll

[Danny Baumann]

Hi,

> > I want to mention first that I am completely unbiased here ... I do not
> > care about the chosen name at all, but leave up the decision to people
> > who care about it. But I can't stand this "argumentation" style, sorry.
> > 
> > > I am not surprised that everyone (i.e. most people) continues ignoring
> > > my suggestions -  Coral and the "combo-names"made it into the poll, 
> > 
> > "Combo-names"? Which ones are you referring to?
> Playing stupid is what you like most, right? What do you think "coral"
> is? It "evolved" from "coryl" ...

Huh? You said "Coral and the combo-names made it into the poll." - So
these are Coral and ... yeah, and what?
I don't really like Coral BTW, but as I said, I don't care that much.

> > > Why do you guys want to continue the pseudo-democracy thing you killed
> > > your beloved beryl-project with??? Can't you understand that there are
> > > people who have some more "sense" for project-management and -identity?
> > 
> > Who are these people? And why don't they suggest names and explain why
> > these names should be chosen as everyone else does?
> Everyone but the users. They said a billion times that they don't care
> at all - why should people who don't care about something make a
> decision about it?

You still didn't mention who these people who have some more "sense" for
project-management and -identity are. Let me guess: You think that you
would be suited best because you "are concerned about what happens to
compiz (obviously more than others)"?

> > > I (once again) propose naming it just "beryl 2.0"- because that's what
> > > it is ... 
> > 
> > Huh? (again) ... It's not, and you know that. You just want to bitch
> > around a bit here.
> I can very well bitch around while telling the truth. Bitching around
> doesn't make me automatically wrong ...

You void your (already weak) arguments with bitching around.

> > Same question as to Mike before to you: Why do you keep bitching around
> > here if everything is "a farce" and is "stupid"? Why don't you try to
> > either
> > a) be constructive or
> > b) just shut up?
> Because I am still concerned about what happens to compiz (obviously
> much more than most others). The new project is said to be a "combined"
> project ... but in fact it is everything from beryl modified to work on
> top of compiz-core. So why don't you just call it beryl 2.0 ??? It would
> fit best ...

So what would you expect from a combined project? Throwing away
everything that existed before? *rolleyes*
And wasn't having the Beryl additional plugins for Compiz core and
working together on core the merge/combination/whatever goal? 

> Once again - being constructive does not mean accepting any
> bullshit-idea for the "greater good". Yes-sayers are not constructive,
> they are just afraid of telling their real opinion ...

No-sayers are in no way more constructive than yes-sayers. And so far,
you and Mike have always been no-sayers - with the exception that Mike
contributed a bit of relevant code.

> And one small question: How can it be constructive to "just shut up" and
> watch everything getting worse and worse? That's quite paradox ...

That's not constructive, but at least not annoying for the people who
actually DO something.

> > Sorry for the harsh wording, but I'm extremely annoyed of complaints and
> > bitching about people's behaviour, people's code and whatnot without any
> > constructive idea or contribution.
> Whenever I try to be somehow constructive you start complaining and
> bitching about what I say - is that your way of being constructive?

Looks like you didn't try hard enough - your original post was not
constructive at all as it contained no ideas or suggestions, but just
insults and complaints.

> > Who said that CoCo is a combination of "compiz and beryl"? It doesn't
> > make any sense to me - if anyone said that, it surely doesn't reflect
> > the majority opinion (I'm sure you know that, but bitching around is
> > fun, isn't it?)
> Kristian said it - but of course he is "only a complainer" and doesn't
> reflect the majority of yes-sayers around here, right? Even though he is
> the only "ex-beryl"-person I can agree with (sometimes) ...

No, he is one person among a number of people. You won't expect it - but
everyone of us has his own opinion. If Kristian says something, he
doesn't automatically speak for all of us.

> > > Having a bunch of nerdy teenagers select a cool name is like letting a
> > > bunch of pigs select an elegant wardrobe for the evening) ...
> > 
> > Insults FTW?
> No, the naked (yet unfriendly) truth :P ... I am not the type of guy who
> tries to be polite only to get more people to agree with me.

Truth? Then please show me the detailed age statistics of all the
voters. You can't provide it? Oh, I already expected that, that's why I
assumed you just wanted to insult.
Hint: Some teenagers voting != every voter is a teenager.

> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > RYX
> > 
> > Signing with a pseudonym is commonly seen as impolite - why don't you
> > use your real name?
> Well - you know what my name is, don't you? Most people call me RYX
> anyway. Did I appear like giving a shit about being polite in this mail?

You said you tried to be constructive, didn't you?

> 
> Rico

I take that one as a step in the right direction ;-)

Regards,

Danny