[Compcomm] Name poll

[RYX]

Am Montag, den 04.06.2007, 19:25 +0800 schrieb Sam Spilsbury:
> GREAT! CORAL GOT IN!!!!!11!!!!!!11!1 ITS TEH BIGGEST DEAL EVAZ!
> 
> Just because 'Coral' was suggested. It doesn't mean that it WILL
> DEFINITELY BE THE NAME. Names like 'Nova' and 'Fusion' are getting
> votes too and thats good. And wait, how - HOW did we kill this
> project? By adding a couple of PLUGINS. PLUGINS that users can turn
> off or on! Core is pretty much untouched and David has very strict
> rules about what gets into core and what doesn't.
> 
> A name is a name. Great. Its a NAME!
> 
> Thats it.
Exactly - another sign that most people don't care about a name at all.
So why are all those people who don't care so keen on choosing a name?
And if you take a close look then you will notice which name is getting
the most votes ...

> 
> It does not change the code
> 
> It does not change what the project is about
> 
> Its just a NAME.
For me it isn't. For me it is a project identity, something that should
last for ages. It is the first thing a new user will see or hear of the
new project - it should be chosen by people who care about those things,
not by all those guys who don't actually care if the project is called
"horst the window manager" or "a thing that moves windows" ...

> 
> When people look at Beryl and Compiz, they say - wow, wobbly windows
> and a cube! thats cool and I want it. Its not like they are judging by
> the name.
Yeah - the cube. I used it for about one year or so. I find it so
incredibly boring now that I wonder what people like about it - there
are so many more things possible that the cube became pretty lame
meanwhile ... Once we have input redirection we will hopefully see the
cube getting replaced by something cool.

Not everyone is part of that "whooohoo - wobbly windows and a cube
rule"-crowd.

Seriously - I really care about the project but I don't care about some
stupid, nerdy morons who are sometimes called "average users" ... The
"average user" doesn't know what's best for him - that's why nobody
cares for what the "average user" wants (at least in projects run by
grown-ups).

> 
> 
> And wa-wait? What was the whole point of this merge? It was because we
> had extremely similair goals.
No - it was because the beryl core was unmaintainable and the beryl guys
realized that they can jump on the "compiz-train" instead of letting
their whole project die and being forced to re-join with compiz without
the possibility to make requests then. Compiz laid out the goals which
the beryl-project was missing from the very first day. Beryl NEVER had a
sane (i.e. realizable) roadmap or future plans/directions. The
beryl-guys' point of the merge was to save beryl by any means - nothing
more.

> 
> So what are you going to name it in that case? If YOU have a sense of
> leadership, what would YOU do?
I proposed to name the whole thing "coco" long before the merge was
officially announced. The name "coco" has a deeper sense - it involved
the "community"-factor and that everything is built around compiz.
Additionally it is a girl's name (and an even better one than "beryl"
which is a granny's name) ...

And only to make it clear - I NEVER applied for being a "leader", I only
did and said things nobody else wanted to do or say. I never wanted to
have something back and I never wanted my vote to be better than others.
All I asked for was a clear separation of responsibility. I think this
makes me a much better leader than all you "discussion-addicts" ... 

Some things have to be decided by people who know what they are doing,
not discussed by people who just want to be involved in things they
don't understand ...

> 
> Just a thought
> 
> On 6/4/07, RYX <ryx at ryxperience.com> wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 03.06.2007, 22:14 +0200 schrieb Guillaume Seguin:
> > > The name poll has started, check it out at ttp://tinyurl.com/3bx9oj
> >
> > I am not surprised that everyone (i.e. most people) continues ignoring
> > my suggestions -  Coral and the "combo-names"made it into the poll, I
> > assume once again because some people just lack leader-abilities here
> > and simply pick up everything that is thrown in without spending a
> > second with thinking about style and uniqueness. Of course, who cares if
> > the name is already used for tenth of other things?
> >
> > Why do you guys want to continue the pseudo-democracy thing you killed
> > your beloved beryl-project with??? Can't you understand that there are
> > people who have some more "sense" for project-management and -identity?
> > We are not just selecting a new name here - we are giving personality
> > and identity to this project ... You managed to kill this new project
> > before it even gets  a name.
> >
> > I (once again) propose naming it just "beryl 2.0"- because that's what
> > it is ... Chances to get me into the boat finally went to zero with your
> > "great" name poll. Mike said it before and I can only agree: this is all
> > a farce and it becomes more and more stupid ...
> >
> > (and btw: where the hell is coco a combination of "compiz and beryl" -
> > it initially meant "compiz community" or maybe "composite comunity" ...
> > Having a bunch of nerdy teenagers select a cool name is like letting a
> > bunch of pigs select an elegant wardrobe for the evening) ...
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > RYX
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Guillaume
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