[Compcomm] Name poll

[Sam Spilsbury]

I know this is going to end up in a 23 mail flamewar when I wake up
tommorow, so I'm prepared to read every single message and see how off
topic this goes.

On 6/4/07, Sam Spilsbury <smspillaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK
>
> I really don't think you get where me and danny are coming from here.
> Maybe its the language barrier or maybe its just a case of intolerance
> and frustration bercause this project (appears) to be going no-where
> (Which, BTW is what I write my OCCN blog for - so that people know
> whats going on and where we are 'sort-of' heading (Don't take that too
> seriously btw))
>
> The point is, Rico, that instead of the developers making desisions
> for the project itself, we let the users decide what they think the
> project is about, as the developers see it as code. As per this
> webpage 'http://producingoss.com/en/getting-started.html#choosing-a-name,'
> It implies that you should choose a name that represents what users
> see from the project. Its like a book, the author can only imply one
> theme but people can read so many different themes from it. Hence were
> letting the users decide.
>
> This is the part where you come in. Let's get this straight, you have
> not offended us, as people in any way, shape or form. All you are
> making us do is wonder why you are being so 'de-constructive' and not
> wanting to join in / and/or making it hard for the users.
>
> Lets take an example. The Beryl people come up with an idea on how to
> do something. In this case, CCS.
>
> You and Mike (Generally) have come in to say (My interpretation) 'This
> is crap, lets use my way that I just started and I think will work.
> Who cares about the advantages or problems yours solves, lets use my
> way even though it doesnt solve some of those problems, but its still
> good.'
>
> Yet you fail to realize the point that we have been working on this
> solution for a while. You just come in, shoot it down and say we
> should use yours instead because you think it has some technical
> merit. Only you.
>
> That is deconstructive ^
>
> Here is the way to be constructive :
>
> The Beryl team is working on a project, you come in and have a look at
> it and have a look at yours. You like the idea of yours and the
> benefits it provides but also have a look at the merit of theirs. You
> suggest new ways to contribute to the existing idea so that your ideas
> can become part of the big idea. Everybody wins.
>
> So onto this whole name issue. We are DISSCUSSING the best way to do
> something and you come in and shoot it down saying that its crap and
> your way must be the best because its how you see it.
>
> Not being contructive ^
>
> Instead of saying that our ideas are crap without any reason other
> than you think they are crap, please suggest ways in which to improve
> our thinking instead of saying 'It should be like this and thats the
> end of it'
>
> -Sam
>
> On 6/4/07, RYX <ryx at ryxperience.com> wrote:
> > > > Signing with a pseudonym is commonly seen as impolite - why don't you
> > > > > use your real name?
> > > > Well - you know what my name is, don't you? Most people call me RYX
> > > > anyway. Did I appear like giving a shit about being polite in this mail?
> > >
> > > You said you tried to be constructive, didn't you?
> > As I said - I am tired of repeating myself. If you were really
> > interested in what I say (and not only what you think is best), then you
> > would stop picking out and complaining about out all my
> > bitching/"insulting" and instead pick up the useful arguments "hidden"
> > between the lines of bitching ...
> >
> > Unless some people here start reacting on arguments and not on
> > everything that can be somehow seen as "bitching", I'll refuse to answer
> > on the same stupid points over and over again. Exactly this behavior is
> > what I dislike around here. If I hide stupid things in nice words
> > everyone seems to love me, if I try to be clear and direct everyone
> > seems to feel insulted by the nasty truth ...
> >
> > I am sorry if I hurt all those "little girlie feelings" of you guys with
> > my bad and harsh words. I accidentally expected to talk to men, not to a
> > bunch of little girls and pussies ... Better go upstairs and tell your
> > mum that this bad guy RYX hurts your feelings over and over again.
> >
> > This kind of behavior is the best proof for me that I am only talking to
> > children and teenagers here. Compiz always was the adult project and
> > beryl was the children's plaything - why should it be different for the
> > new project, right? (*sigh*....)
> >
> > Farewell ...
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Rico
> > >
> > > I take that one as a step in the right direction ;-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Danny
> > >
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