[Compcomm] My ideas (for the record)

[Sam Spilsbury]

Not to be an insult or anything, just a fact tidbit,

When did you start working on projects that the Beryl-Based project
duplicate effort from?

On 6/15/07, RYX <ryx at ryxperience.com> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2007, 19:28 -0400 schrieb Robert Carr:
> > On 6/14/07, Mike Dransfield <mike at blueroot.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Robert Carr wrote:
> > > > There is when an extras package implements nearly 100% of the actual
> > > > user visible functionality, and another group could create an entirely
> > > > seperate extras package with separate functionality.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you seriously trying to say that if you disable the following
> > > plugins you will have somewhere near 50% of your original
> > > functionality left?
> > >
> > > By most people's standards, the computer would be non functional
> > > without these.
> > >
> > > png, svg, regex, place, decoration, move, resize, wobbly, cube,
> > > rotate, water, blur, scale, switcher
> > >
> > As we've discussed many times these are moving to part of what you
> > call the 'extras' project as opposed to Compiz-fdo and my comment was
> > based on that assumption.
> As I've expressed about a hundred times - the so called "extras project"
> was a DRAFT describing the future plans of the compiz-community. Some
> people entirely misinterpreted that draft as the "de-facto roadmap" for
> the next ten weeks (maybe intentionally?) and happily shouted that out
> to the world. The (obviously stupid) idea of moving core-development to
> "compiz-fdo" was entirely yours. The "core-development" is done on the
> ML and "coredev-newbies" can also find help on the forums. We spend
> months to build up a well-accepted forum-structure and -organization
> which is aimed towards helping newbies as well as more advanced users.
> No matter if he only wants to "use" or he also wants to "develop" ...
>
> Everything we wanted was to get all the "lost" people back to the
> compiz-community. And why should "the community formerly known as
> compiz-quinnstorm" not become united with the compiz-commmunity? At
> compiz.org, which is ready and waiting for everyone. (Oh, sure - we
> don't have that incredible phpbb3 ... well, I can assure you we'll use
> it once it is working and I don't lose my posts because of bugs every
> two hours).
>
> So, we virtually had/have everything we need - but instead of supporting
> our plans (as you originally said), you guys brought in everything you
> thought is best and tried to duplicate effort wherever possible. With
> the result that we now have two versions of almost everything - even two
> forums.
>
> I understand and fully support Mike's position and in the end I see it
> exactly the way he does.
>
> Instead of continuously misinforming people about new ideas and plans,
> we should finally get back to our starting point: We wanted to have ONE
> COMMUNITY for people interested in compiz and its plugins and
> configuration. And we want our beloved WM to work on many system
> configs. Nobody wanted another split or even more separation. Write that
> behind your ears!! (german saying for "keep that in mind" :D ...).
>
> Rico
>
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