[Compcomm] My ideas (for the record)

[Mike Dransfield]

Matt Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 21:43 -0400, Alyssa Hung wrote:
>   
>> Stephen Moore wrote:
>>     
>>> I say hell yes to subdomains to compiz.org <http://compiz.org>, that is 
>>> a fantastic idea ! :D
>>>
>>> as for  alyssa's idea about making this stuff unrelated to compiz, well 
>>> i doubt it'd be anytime soon before something other than compiz is 
>>> created that's just gonna work with these plugins.
>>>       
>> Other compositing managers were only a small part of what I was saying. 
>> What about Compiz plugins, Compiz settings managers, Compiz window 
>> decorators, and other bits that aren't good enough or otherwise don't 
>> deserve to be in the official Compiz distribution(s)? Compiz-Core 
>> developers have expressed frequent concerns about the quality of the 
>> design that comes before the code--something that they contend most 
>> plugins/decorators/extensions lack. It seems like a very exclusive and 
>> closed environment to me. I prefer something more inclusive and open.
>>
>> libbs/libccs/libcompizconfig has been criticised more times than anyone 
>> can be bothered to count. Many Beryl plugins have been said to be 
>> impulsive, poorly thought-out, and unmaitainable.
>>
>> And in RYX's own words, "And what is wrong if I say that everyone brings 
>> in his stuff from beryl and automatically thinks that his solution has 
>> to be part of the new project - no matter if plans were totally 
>> different or his solution already proved to be suboptimal?" What does an 
>> official Compiz community offer to people who aren't interested in being 
>> official? What does an official Compiz community offer to people who 
>> simply want to play around and experiment?
>>
>>     
>>> and anyway, just because it's gonna become transparent, doesn't mean we 
>>> have to forget it now ! :D
>>>       
>> I thought we wanted a lasting solution that wouldn't have to be 
>> abandoned in the future when things change enough?
>>
>>
>> ~Alyssa
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> I don't think that anyone meant that hosting the new project(s) at
> compiz.org made it (them) part of the official Compiz distribution. That
> would be a rather bad idea in my opinion. The project should be about as
> independent as it is now, just closer to Compiz, making it easier for
> users to find the software, support etc...
>   

I agree totally.  In fact NOTHING on the compiz.org domain
is official.  Even the www homepage is under the control of
the community.  David has said many times that he his not
interested and he knows nothing about it anyway.

The domain is under his name and he has control, but I think
that is best for everyone.  Its like in the UK, the head of state
has the right to stop any laws being passed.  They never do but
it is just a safeguard.  I am sure all countries have something
similar.

> Also, there is not reason why the forums at forum.compiz.org can't be a
> central place for discussing general compositing technology.
>   

Exactly.  It already is.  All we need is to work out how
to structure it better.

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