[Compcomm] Forum Decision

[RYX]

What happens to compiz.org? Is it now deprecated? I don't understand how
exactly the new forum is meant to integrate with the compiz-website - if
it is at all. If it isn't - what do compiz users do if they want
support? Go to the opencompositing-forums? That is a highly
unprofessional presentation of compiz and its greatness.

And what do we do if the community has finally chosen a new name? Move
everything again? Rename all forum topics? Rename the entire folders,
files and comments in git? Rename all packages? The name "compcomm"
appears so often that one could think it is meant to last forever.

On the one hand people talk about no duplicated effort and on the other
hand they do things over and over again - that is not the type of
organization this project needs. The git-repo is a total mess, too.

I know that you see me as the unconstructive troublemaker anyway so I
don't expect you to understand my point. I just don't agree that much
with your future vision of the project. Compiz as a project has (had?) a
somehow professional attitude while "compcomm" doesn't appear much like
that in many areas (not in all). 

I don't want to complain all the time but I can't understand why we
should simply accept getting a "compizified" beryl-project as new
replacement for compiz. The current state of what some people refer to
as "compcomm" is by no means acceptable as a full replacement.


Rico


Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2007, 17:51 -0400 schrieb Jeffrey Laramie:
> I can hear you all groaning at the thought of starting this discussion up 
> again. Trust me, I'm not looking forward to it either, but it's an issue that 
> needs to be resolved and time is not on our side here.
> 
> At this point I don't see any benefit in rehashing any of the previous 
> discussion. It's been almost 3 weeks since we stopped discussing the forum 
> and sadly a lot has changed.
> 
> Since the discussion ended, the activity on the Compiz forum has dropped by 
> more than one half. At this point there are only 2-3 active threads and the 
> rest of the posts are from newbies looking for support. The Beryl forum has 
> been locked up completely. The "new" forum has had lots of people join, but 
> few of them are from Compiz. I don't have exact stats on usage, but 
> subjectively I'd say it's less than half the volume of the old Beryl forum.
> 
> We are fortunate that the code merging is going well, because our actions, and 
> to a certain extent our inaction, have caused a great deal of harm to our 
> user and enthusiast communities which use these forums. I'm not about to 
> start pointing fingers and laying blame because there is plenty of blame to 
> go around and many of us share in it.
> 
> The original agreement to reunite envisioned merging the forums from each 
> community.  While we have demonstrated that this is technically possible, I 
> no longer see any point in it. Except for a couple threads on the compiz 
> forum, there are no active threads to merge and it simply isn't worth the 
> effort any longer.
> 
> While I'm strongly against the way the new forum was created, I think it's 
> design incorporates the best features of both the Compiz and Beryl forums and 
> it uses phpbb3 which many people seem to prefer. I worked on it a bit last 
> night and added a few categories so that it is better able to support the 
> compiz-core package. I think all of us are willing to make further 
> adjustments if there are areas where this layout needs improvement. For those 
> of you who haven't seen it, you can find it here: 
> http://www.opencompositing.org
> 
> I'd like to propose that we select this forum as the "official" Composite 
> Community forum.
> 
> Jeff
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